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The One Thing I Have Learned in Stand Up Comedy

August 20th, 2009 by Jason LaCour
Just You and the Mic

Just You and the Mic

This piece is not for comedians.  This piece is not for comics.  I make the two distinctions because I’ve heard that there is a difference although I am not sure what they are.  I’ve heard the cliché that, “A comic says funny things.  A comedian says things funny.”  I think this is a misquote from Ed Wynn, Vaudevillian comic / comedian from yesteryear, to draw a distinction between how much of comedy can be attributed to verbal content and how much to acting and persona.  Another interpretation is that a true comedian can make the phone book hilarious.  Either way, it parallels the same self righteousness of an old fraternity adage I heard in college.  “Don’t call my fraternity a frat.  You don’t call your country a cunt”  How do they know what I call my country?  I know I’m digressing.  No, this piece is for anybody who performs and / or is interested in stand up comedy and has the same questions I had when I first got started.

Let me first start by saying that I am no authority.  I don’t have any TV credits to speak of.  No HBO specials on the way.  I have been doing comedy for just under three years which, in comedy time, means I’ve just started to sprout my proverbial comedic pubes.  However, I have been going out to comedy venues four to seven nights a week for the majority of my comedy “career” so what I do have is perspective.  Many conversations with stand-ups, both green and seasoned, have shed some light on some common beliefs and misconceptions that seem to pervade the world of stand up comedy and, in my opinion, all of them can be summed up with one rule of thumb:  Nobody knows what the Hell they’re talking about so don’t listen to anybody.  Groundbreaking, huh?  Sorry if you were expecting something more but it is true.  Almost every question you may have about stand-up can be answered with that statement.  Don’t believe me?  Let’s examine.

To bring, or not to bring: that is the question.  The great debate here in Los Angeles and many other large markets is whether or not to do bringer shows.  For those new to that term, bringer shows are shows that producers put on where they ask you to bring a designated amount of people in exchange for stage time.  Most stand-ups I’ve talked to cringe at the mere mention of it.  “I don’t do bringer shows,” is the common response.  “It ruins stand-up comedy by giving shitty comics stage time just because they bring a bunch of friends,” is another.  Well that, certainly, is one way to look at it.  Another way to look at it might be, “How can you ever expect to be a headliner if you don’t have any fans?”  Comedy is as subjective an art form as they come but I think most people can agree that the funniest people are not, necessarily, the most successful.  Unfortunately, show business is still a business and at the end of the day, what’s going to open more doors for you, how many asses you can put in the seat or that sweet joke you have about baby AIDS?  Nobody knows what the Hell they’re talking about so don’t listen to anybody.  If you don’t want to do bringer shows, don’t do them.  If you want to do them, do them…and work on that baby AIDS bit.

Question:  What’s better, edgy and blue or clean and clever?   Answer:  Who gives a shit.  Another common conundrum I see many new comics face is what style they should adopt.  On one hand you have the easy to attempt yet difficult to pull off, “R-rated” comedy.  On the other you have the less popular yet even trickier, “TV friendly” comedy.  I hear it go both ways.  “Audiences in these tough times aren’t going to like you if your jokes are about abortions and 9/11.”  Tell that to Doug Stanhope.  “You can’t really call yourself an artist with observations about Pop Tarts.”  Tell that to Brian Regan.  When it comes to style, a lot of advice gets thrown around.  If you do the open mike at the Laugh Factory here in Los Angeles and you curse, you immediately get thrown off stage.  Their argument?  You can’t curse on The Tonight Show.  My retort?  Fuck The Tonight Show, I’m just trying to get a showcase.  If you haven’t picked up on it already, I tend to lean towards the dark side.  However, I have the utmost respect for those that can be clean and funny.  Unfortunately, most new stand-ups are only doing open mikes and as anyone who has performed at an open mike in front of a crowd of cynical comedians will tell you, the only way you’re going to get good laughs from comedians is if the material is dark and strange and dark and did I mention dark?.  Put it this way, molestation by a transvestite priest in the basement of the Anne Frank house could be considered a hacky premise at an open mike.  Consequently, this type of feedback and reinforcement leads many comics to go blue when, by nature, they probably are not.  Nobody knows what the Hell they’re talking about so don’t listen to anybody.

It works for any question you may have.  This piece would not be a piece if I went into every single question a new stand-up may have, it would be a book.  So I’ll summarize.  “How often should I write?” Nobody knows… “Should I move to LA or New York or hit the road?”  Nobody knows… “How much time should I dedicate to hanging out at clubs and networking?”  Nobody knows… “When can I quit my day job?”  Nobody knows…  “Are stand-up workshops beneficial or a waste of money?”  Nobody knows… “Is there really a God?”  No.

Realizing that nobody really knows anything is actually quite liberating, both in comedy and in life.  Remember all those real estate “experts” that told people to buy in 2006?  You get the idea.  The concept of “Nobody knows” really dawned on me when I kept watching interview after interview of megastar stand-ups say the same thing when asked, “Any advice?”  Every single one of them says, “Just keep getting up as much as you can.”  I guess that is the only real answer to anything in stand-up.  The rest will sort itself out.  But what do I know?  If you got this far into the piece, you didn’t listen to the rule of thumb anyway.  Or maybe you did.  Damn, I hate paradoxes.  Go Lakers.

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    [...] They say that a comic should never blame the audience. By “they,” I’m referring to those who suck at comedy and try to stay relevant in the industry by dispensing shitty advice for a nominal fee. Fuck them too. Nobody knows anything in this business and if you want to know my opinion on that, see the first piece I wrote for this site. You can find it here. [...]

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